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Free Will [Jul. 17th, 2006|12:48 pm]
Quid Est Veritas?

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[eatflipper]
Do we (humans) possess free will? (Evaluate from any perspective: empirical, religious, theoretical....)

And, how do you feel about this?
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[User Picture]From: pemberlybudgie
2006-07-18 05:59 pm (UTC)
Grace, I <3 your post. Here I am blabbering on about dense Aristotelian gibberish that no one really cares about, and you come out with a profound one-liner that pretty much affects mankind and history and everything ^_^ TEH awesome.

Actually, I have been goofing off for like an hour now, so I have to get back to work for a while, but thanks for posting (cool person that you are) and I'll mull over yer question and post later ^_^

(ps don't you like my icon? I'm sure it'll help me think ^^)
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From: (Anonymous)
2006-07-18 06:17 pm (UTC)
It's just something I wonder about a lot.

*Michael Wood?* I look it up. Ahhhhhhhh.
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[User Picture]From: pemberlybudgie
2006-07-20 08:49 pm (UTC)
eh, I guess you weren't part of the Michael Wood infatuation amongst the eleventh grade female population. It was rather pathetic. We even have a MW lj community. Seriously. It's on my profile--check it out. Once (at a time when some of the faculty had caught on to us), Mr. Ellison in referring to the TV on which we watched the MW videos called it "the lovemobile." Our reaction was XDD underneath a very heavy o_O;;.

But really, how can you resist the man? He's awesomely intelligent and academic, he runs all over the world chasing history, he's rough-and-tumble and handsome and British, he wears those awesome half-open shirts and totally unnecessary scarves...*coff* but I digress from free will ^_^
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[User Picture]From: eatflipper
2006-07-21 05:47 am (UTC)
O.O

*blink*
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[User Picture]From: eatflipper
2006-07-18 06:17 pm (UTC)
yeah, that was me. somehow didn't get logged in. arrr.
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[User Picture]From: pemberlybudgie
2006-07-27 06:58 pm (UTC)
Ok, I'm going to make a poor job of this since I don't have much time, but I figured I'd better answer before I take off for a fortnight (oooh. Fortnight. That's Jane Austen talk right there.)...

I think humans do possess free will. From a religious standpoint, I think it's obvious we have free will because God wouldn't have put us here to be machines. If we didn't have free will, we wouldn't be able to love or obey God, and I can't seem Him going for that.

I'm not so good at a scientific level; I mean, I can think of how we might be made up of material that always does the same thing and since we are nothing but chemicals and electrons we don't have free will, but I just can't make that idea fit with real life. If that's true, I don't see why all humans don't just act the same. And why the possibility of changing for the better? Machines can only deteriorate, but humans can choose to improve.

Anyhow, I am making such a shoddy job of this that i think I'll stop, because I really don't have time to think it through adequately. I'll admit, I have a very hard time with the predestination thing in Romans and elsewhere, since I think it contradicts the free will thing that I see in Genesis and the Gospels and all that...but maybe I can think about that while I'm in Colorado and get back to you with something intelligent ^_^
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